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Somebody on the Global Fightback FB page posted this link. Now RT is hardly an impartial source, but even so it's hard to deny that the West have played with fire with their interference in Ukraine prior to this blowing up. Always two sides to a story of course.

https://youtu.be/oBRUDSY66tY

Globalfightback wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:46 pm
Posturing, hopefully. Or not. As per the earlier post, who knows for sure? One thing's for certain, it's a dangerous game using nuclear weapons as a playing piece in diplomatic chess. No human has either a right or a mandate to threaten not only human life, but all life on this planet - because that in effect is what bringing out the nuclear toys is doing. Humans have, at most, stewardship over this planet, and certainly not lordship - anybody with an inkling of spiritual insight would see this. World leaders think (or at least claim) that they represent the people - but it's a sham, almost everywhere in the world. And this is not going to change until, imo, we have a true democracy of the people and by the people. You could argue that having two heavily armed power blocs opposing and distrusting each other was always going to end like this - the paranoia of Ego. The only saving grace is that Trump is not still in power, because that fool would probably be even more likely to press the button.

Could it be that, when Putin calls the Ukrainain government fascists it's a veiled reference to perceived Zionist influence, given that the President is Jewish in a primarily Orthodox Christian nation?

DownUnder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:57 am Could it be that, when Putin calls the Ukrainain government fascists it's a veiled reference to perceived Zionist influence, given that the President is Jewish in a primarily Orthodox Christian nation?

Possibly. Certainly, Zelensky and other government members come across as either foolhardy or naive to implore the West to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine when any objective person can see it would cause a rapid and serios escalation of hostilities. But the vast majority of Ukraine's citizens are Christian, as this article explains. It's more likely a reference to general Western interference in Ukraine. Certainly, Zelensky's ardent wish for Ukraine to join NATO will not have helped matters. You can understand Russia not wanting a NATO country right on its doorstep, and the possible deployment of Western missiles there. I seem to remember reading at the time of Zelensky's election some claims from Russia that the West had interfered in the election process, although whether that's true or not is highly debatable.

This is a very interesting article:

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... in/626571/

For sure, war has been one of the main threads in mankind's so-called 'dominion' on Earth. There is a rampant paranoia flowing through the psyche of humanity that's only going to be cured, imo, by a radical shift away from materialism and towards spirituality.

Mithrandir777 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:01 pm For sure, war has been one of the main threads in mankind's so-called 'dominion' on Earth. There is a rampant paranoia flowing through the psyche of humanity that's only going to be cured, imo, by a radical shift away from materialism and towards spirituality.

Absolutely. I've previously posted about Buddhism and the teachings of Eckhart Tolle in the Spirituality And Philosophy forum, and will have more to say on this in the near future.

Globalfightback wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:22 pm

DownUnder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:57 am Could it be that, when Putin calls the Ukrainain government fascists it's a veiled reference to perceived Zionist influence, given that the President is Jewish in a primarily Orthodox Christian nation?

Possibly. Certainly, Zelensky and other government members come across as either foolhardy or naive to implore the West to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine when any objective person can see it would cause a rapid and serios escalation of hostilities. But the vast majority of Ukraine's citizens are Christian, as this article explains. It's more likely a reference to general Western interference in Ukraine. Certainly, Zelensky's ardent wish for Ukraine to join NATO will not have helped matters. You can understand Russia not wanting a NATO country right on its doorstep, and the possible deployment of Western missiles there. I seem to remember reading at the time of Zelensky's election some claims from Russia that the West had interfered in the election process, although whether that's true or not is highly debatable.

This article states the obvious really, so I'm not sure what Zelensky thinks he will achieve by invoking the memory of Churchill to the British parliament:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/indepth/ ... d=msedgntp

DownUnder wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:45 pm

Globalfightback wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:22 pm

DownUnder wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:57 am Could it be that, when Putin calls the Ukrainain government fascists it's a veiled reference to perceived Zionist influence, given that the President is Jewish in a primarily Orthodox Christian nation?

Possibly. Certainly, Zelensky and other government members come across as either foolhardy or naive to implore the West to impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine when any objective person can see it would cause a rapid and serios escalation of hostilities. But the vast majority of Ukraine's citizens are Christian, as this article explains. It's more likely a reference to general Western interference in Ukraine. Certainly, Zelensky's ardent wish for Ukraine to join NATO will not have helped matters. You can understand Russia not wanting a NATO country right on its doorstep, and the possible deployment of Western missiles there. I seem to remember reading at the time of Zelensky's election some claims from Russia that the West had interfered in the election process, although whether that's true or not is highly debatable.

This article states the obvious really, so I'm not sure what Zelensky thinks he will achieve by invoking the memory of Churchill to the British parliament:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/indepth/ ... d=msedgntp

What is it with Zelensky with his incessant exhortations for the West to impose a no-fly zone on someone else's sovereign territory? Ukraine isn't even (fortunately) a member of NATO, and their moves to join that Pact are, as previously noted, one of the catalysts of this crisis. Anyone using objective reasoning would see that imposing a no-fly zone would likely escalate hostilities beyond the Ukrainian border and, moreover, that his claim that global conflict is more likely if we don't act now rather than later is illogical. His comments come across as naïve at best, and at worst disingenuous. One begins to wonder who is the more likely to be the main protagonist in any escalation of hostilities, Zelensky or Putin, because it's looking as if Zelensky will continue his line until there is enough mass hysteria in the West to grant him his wish.

Nobody with an ounce of humanity wants to see the atrocious scenes coming out of Ukraine at the moment, with untold thousands of civilians dying or fleeing their homes: it is the latest psychopathic chapter in the bloody history of mankind, but the solution is certainly not an escalation of the conflict, for sure. It's hard to see how this is going to end, unless the Russian people come to their senses. After that, in the longer term, we need a radical global shift against the use of warfare as a crude bargaining chip and a cudgel; the multilateral disarmament of all nuclear weapons; and an even more radical shift from the nationalistic jingoism of nation states that are, in the final analysis, an artefact of the tribalism that has held humanity back from any meaningful and lasting evolution for millennia. Such discussions are for another time, should that time ever come to pass.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/05/zelensky ... -16221703/

I thought this meme rather summed up the hypocrisy of the West.

DownUnder wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:37 pm I thought this meme rather summed up the hypocrisy of the West.

Up to a point, yes, but it has to be noted that not every politician (or nation for that matter) in the West supported the invasion of Iraq, and there were protests on the streets too.